Wednesday, December 07, 2016

Response to "Why do Calvinists place their hope in election?"

The post below was in a forum against election. My remarks are in capital letters (I'm not screaming, just trying to separate my comments from the poster's comments. I will also change the color)

Why do Calvinists place their hope in election?
I DO NOT PLACE MY HOPE IN ELECTION. I PLACE MY HOPE IN JESUS CHRIST AND HIS WORK ON THE CROSS FOR ME.

I believe the answer is simply a lack of faith. HOW CAN YOU JUDGE A PERSON'S HEART AND THEIR FAITH OR LACK THEREOF? YOU ARE NOT GOD. Historically, when a person lacks faith, they try to enter the kingdom by works. TRUE. Since it is a forgone conclusion that works will not get you in the kingdom, the alternative became election. WHERE IS THE SOURCE TO PROVE THIS? Calvinist reason in their minds that if there is anything that makes you desire to know the Lord, surely you have already been regenerated. TRUE.

Eph2:1 And you were dead (SPIRITUALLY DEAD MEN CAN'T RESPOND) in your trespasses and sins, 2in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. 3Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest. 4But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive (GOD CAUSED US TO BE ALIVE SPIRITUALLY SO WE COULD RESPOND) together with Christ (by grace you have been saved),

All that’s left for the Calvinist is to do is have faith, because regeneration precedes faith, according to Calvinism.TRUE, SEE SCRIPTURE ABOVE...I WOULD ASK WHAT ELSE IS THERE TO DO BESIDE HAVE FAITH IN THE WORK OF JESUS ON THE CROSS? ANYTHING ELSE ADDED TO FAITH IS WORKS.
But why? Simply because this allows them to reason in their mind that in spite of the sin they still commit, the sin that they struggle to overcome, the fact that they lack faith that Jesus has truly paid it all, they will not go to hell because they are God’s elect; chosen from the foundations of the world before they did any good or bad. NOT SURE WHERE YOU GET THIS REASONING. I HAVE NEVER REASONED THIS WAY IN MY MIND. I AM SAVED BECAUSE JESUS PAID IT ALL ON THE CROSS FOR ME.

They reason that there is no way that God will forgive some of the sins they have committed. ARE YOU KIDDING ME! ? I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU HAVE BEEN TALKING TO OR BOOKS YOU ARE READING BUT THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
     Who is a God like You, who pardons iniquity
            And passes over the rebellious act of the remnant of His possession?
            He does not retain His anger forever,
            Because He delights in unchanging love.

      He will again have compassion on us;
            He will tread our iniquities under foot.
            Yes, You will cast all their sins
            Into the depths of the sea. Micah 7:18-19


Also, if they are still sinning or having sinful thoughts, they are not deserving of the gift of salvation. AGAIN, THIS JUST PLAIN RIDICULOUS. WHERE DID YOU GET THIS IDEA?

They forget that the beauty of God’s grace is that you get what you don’t deserve. TRUE, THAT GOD'S GRACE GIVES US WHAT WE DON'T DESERVE. I HAVE NEVER FORGOTTEN THAT.

It is the gift of God, not by works so that no one can boast. TRUE! I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU HAVE BEEN TALKING TO TO COME UP WITH SUCH A TWISTED IDEA OF HOW A CALVINIST THINKS. IT'S BEYOND ME.

Election has replaced the necessity of faith. FALSE. Election is another way. FALSE. But, it is by grace that you have been saved through faith…not election, but through faith. TRUE.

Ye of little faith…YOU CAN NOT JUDGE HOW MUCH FAITH ANOTHER PERSON HAS. YOU ARE NOT GOD.

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